Aici stam ca intr-un grup. Intr-un orice grup sunt  un frate si o sora, ei stiu  ca exista ca frati si surori , dar ei stau nu agatati de o singura persoana, ei nu vorbesc doar cu o singura persoana, ei nu devin prietenosi cu acea sora. 

 Astfel, odata,imi amintesc ca  am avut o sarbatoare cu acesti crestini, si cred ca pe atunci erau cel putin treizeci de veri si aveam patru, cinci frati. Noi am mers la acea sarbatoare si printre crestinii indieni sunt crestini din toate nivelurile. Cred ca erau si niste vagabonzi care au facut niste remarci catre noi, surorile. Noi nici nu stiam ca avem atat de multi veri. Ei toti au sarit , precum "jack in the box" ( jack in the box este papusa arlechin care sare din cutie la sfarsitul unei melodii, ca o surpriza), si ei au inceput sa ii bata pe acei baieti. Si noi astfel am aflat ca avem asa de multi veri, altfel noi nici nu stiam. Ei erau in multime, noi nu prea vorbeam cu ei, noi fetele vorbeam intre noi, cu prietenele noastre, noi fetele vorbeam doar intre noi.  Dintr-o data am descoperit ca avem atatia veri si frati. A fost atat de surprinzator sa vedem ca avem atat de multi veri de care nu stiam. 

Ei au sarit imediat sa protejeze castitatea surorii lor, pentru ca sora este baza castitatii lor.

Dar in mod normal nu prea vorbesti mult cu un frate, nici el nu prea vorbeste mult cu tine, nu deveniti prietenosi. Dar in timpurile dificile,in timpurile de maryadas, in momentul cand e nevoie de a consulta despre ceva drag familiei, sora isi face aparitia.

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 Now in a group we are sitting here. Like that, in any group a brother and a sister, they are, they know that they exist as brothers and sisters but they don’t cling onto one person, they don’t talk to one person, they don’t get friendly with that sister. Like once we had a big fete with these Christians once, I remember, and I must be having at least thirty cousins and four, five brothers I had at that time. And we went to that function, and among Indian Christians we have Christians from all kinds of stratas. So there were some vagabonds I think, they passed some remarks about us, we sisters, you see. We didn’t know we had so many cousins. They all shot out, you see, just like jack-in-the-box, and they all took over and started beating those boys. And then we realized so many cousins we have. Otherwise we never knew; they were somewhere, we were not talking to them much, we were talking among ourselves, our friends, we girls were talking to each other. Suddenly we found we have so many cousins and so many brothers. It was most surprising that we should have so many cousins there we did not know. Immediately they jumped on the protection of the chastity of their sister, because she is the basis of their chastity. But normally you don’t talk to your brother much, nor the brother talks to you so much, you don’t get friendly. But at the time of difficulties, at the time of maryadas, at the time of consulting about something that is dear to the family, the sister comes in.

religion

   Oamenii pe care Toma ii considera a fi crestini adevarati sunt cei pe care el ii numeste gnostici. Gna . Gna inseamna "a sti".  Gna inseamna "a sti" .El a scris ca " a sti " si a avea propria experienta  e singurul mod de a-l urma pe Christos...si nu numai asta,dar el a zis ca Dumnezeu Atotputernic  este atat de bun , de ce v-ar ruga el sa suferiti? Deci el a provocat toate principiile crestinismului care includ suferinta.

 In acelasi mod toate religiile au deviat de la calea dreapta si au apucat pe o cale gresita si merg pe calea acestor religii artificiale care  nu au nici o legatura cu realitatea sau cu Incarnarile, cu cei care au pornit religia sau au dat   ideea despre acea religie.

Sper ca nu veti face si cu Mine la fel pentru ca voi sunteti gnostici , voi sunteti cei care stiti , care au avut realizarea sinelui. Fara  realizarea sinelui nu puteti avea o personalitate completa

Kolapur 1987

In incheierea discursului Shri Mataji spune: '' Trebuie sa facem orice este nevoie pentru a intelege sahaja yoga .Asa cum v-am spus , incercati sa invatati limba engleza. Nu pot sa invat 14 limbi straine;este dificil. Este surprinzator cum am invatat si aceasta limba engleza. Ca sa invat 14 limbi trebuie sa iau 14 avataras din nou ( sa ma incarnez de 14 ori n .tr)

The people who he(Thomas) considers to be authorized christians , calls them as gnostic. Gna . Gna  in sanskrit language means”to know”. Gna means ”to know”. And he has written that to know and to have the personal experience is the only way to follow Christ. {….} not only that, he said that God Almighty who is so kind –why will he ask you to suffer? So he challenges all the Christian principles of suffering.

 In the same way in all religions  people have diverted  from the right  path and have come to the wrong path and are indulging into self created religions which has no relationship with reality or with the Incarnations , those who started the religion or who gave the idea of religion . I hope you won’t do that to Me because you are gnostic people, you are the ones who know, who have had self realization. Without Self Realization you cannot have a complete personality.

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Whatever is needed to put you back into the right frame you must accept.  And  whatever is needed to understand sahaja yoga you have to  do. As I have said ,please try to learn English language. I cannot learn 14 languages ;very difficult. It ‘s surprinsing how I have learnt this English language also. So now, to learn 14 languages I have to take 14 avataras again.

Organization

     Deci toti acesti agurus (aguru inseamna cineva care nu este deloc guru, care nu are puteri spirituale , care doar face bani sau o persoana sinistra sau ar putea fi un diavol --explicatie din discurs) au profitat de ignoranta voastra si s-au instalat frumos aici. Dar un lucru bun e ca minciuna este demascata. Dar chiar daca ei sunt azi demascati raul este deja facut . Dar simt ca orice organizatie care ia bani in numele lui Dumnezeu este un cult pentru ca taie unei  persoane (sansele) de a cunoaste si altceva si ii pune ochelari de cal sa nu vada ce faceti.

     Putem vedea acest lucru in Islam, Crestinism  , spaniolii...ei  s-au dus in America, puteti sa credeti ca ei erau crestini?

    Eu Insami am fost nascuta in religia crestina si am fost uluita de misionarii care converteau oamenii prin constrangere ( amenintati cu arma) Este asa ceva crestinismul? Este asa Christos? Ei nu aveau nici un sentiment in inima , fara mila, fara a avea nici un pic de morala, constiinta.

Deci ce ar trebui sa intelegem noi, cumva Christos i-a lasat pe acei oameni sa raspandeasca numele LUI si sa traiasca din numele Lui si sa castige in numele Lui si sa contruiasca organizatii?

 Programul public din Vienna 1986  8 iulie

So all this agurus took full advantage of your ignorance and came down, nicely settled down. But the good about falsehood is this that it gets exposed. But even if they are exposed today the harm is done. But I feel any organization which takes money in the name of God is a cult. Because it cuts out a person to know anything about others. And put the blinker not to see what you are doing. That we can see, say for example, see the Islam or the Christians, the Spaniards – the way they went to America, can you believe they were Christians? I was Myself born in a Christian religion and I was amazed at the missionaries who would convert people at the point of a gun. Is that Christianity, is that Christ? Without any feeling within their heart, ruthlessly. Absolutely without even having any conscience about it. So, what are we to understand that did Christ leave those people to spread His name and live on His name, earn on His name and build organizations?

 

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